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Interview
with Norman
Green
by Jon Jordan
JON: New York is pretty prominent in your first two books.
Why New York?
NORM: I spent a lot of time living
and/or working in New York, so I know it better than I know any other place.
Plus, New York is and has always been a city of immigrants. You don’t have to
scratch very hard to find characters to write about. Sometimes, if I’m stuck,
I’ll just go find a park bench, sit down and watch the people go by. I always
(so far) have gotten something, just from watching the faces, listening to the
voices, looking at the clothes people wear, and so on.
JON: Your characters are very real feeling. Any base in
reality for them?
NORM: My characters are fictional, but
I definitely borrow a quirk here and an accent there. For example, I used to
know a guy whose appetite for life was truly impressive, and I tried to give
that quality to Fat Tommy in Shooting Dr. Jack.
JON: What did you do before starting to write novels?
NORM: I did a lot of things. I worked
on construction jobs as a welder and pipefitter, I was a project engineer for a
food processing equipment manufacturer, I was a plant engineer for a while. I
also owned a couple of businesses.
JON: Being a new author on the scene, was it strange to go
to your first signing events?
NORM: The first book signing I did was
wild, because my wife invited all of my friends, and about seventy-five people
showed up and cheered. I’ll tell you, though, all it takes for a book signing
to be fun is for one person to show up who is interested and is willing to ask
questions.
JON: What authors do you like to read?
NORM: All of the usual suspects, I
guess. I read a lot, and I read a lot of different stuff. I love Lawrence Block
and George Pelecanos, and I just finished a great sci-fi novel, ‘Altered
Carbon’ by Richard Morgan. How long do you want me to make this list? I like
Jefferson Parker, Robert Crais, I just finished ‘Stealing for a Living’ by
Naomi Rand. I am currently re-reading Jung’s ‘Undiscovered Self,’ and I’m
getting back into Alan Watts.
JON: I’ve seen a lot of comparisons of your work to other
authors work. How would you describe what you write?
NORM: That’s a very hard question
for me to answer. I just hope it’s interesting.
JON: What are your writing habits like? When do you write,
do you listen to music while you do it?
NORM: The Puritan who lives inside me
would love it if I got up and six in the morning and slaved away for some given
time period, but I can’t do it. It’s usually nine-thirty or ten before I can
get anything done.
My normal goal, when I’m working on a first draft, is a thousand words a day.
Sometimes I can do much more that that, but that’s my goal. I can usually work
for three or four hours, but I try to quit before I write myself totally dry.
That way, I’ve got someplace to start, the next time. I never listen to music
when I’m working. I find it too distracting.
JON: When you get ideas for something , or when something
pops into your head, do you take notes?
NORM: Absolutely. New ideas are
everywhere, but if I don’t write them down, I forget them. Sometimes I’ll
wake up in the middle of the night with some brainstorm, and I get up and go
write it down on the blackboard next to my desk. Plus, I read a lot of
newspapers, and when I read something or see a picture that intrigues me, I’ll
cut it out. I have a bunch of folders full of that kind of stuff.
JON: In New York are there a lot of people who like to act
like they are connected?
NORM: I personally don’t know
anybody that does that any more. The bloom is kind of off the rose with that
whole mafia thing, I think. Back in the sixties and seventies, those guys were
sort of romanticized
in the press and in popular fiction, but over the last twenty or so years, we’ve
heard too many of the ugly details of that lifestyle. Plus, law enforcement has
made great strides, both in undercover work and in the technology they use to
put people in jail. These days, if you choose a life of crime, you have to
accept the fact that you’re going to do some heavy time before it’s all
over.
JON: Are people you know surprised to find out that you’ve
become an author?
NORM: Well, nobody actually said, ‘How
did a moron like you actually get published?’, but I think a few people were a
little surprised. Including me.
JON: When you are writing, do you let the book carry you to
where it wants to go, or do you have a pretty defined idea what’s going to
take place before you write?
NORM:
So far, I’ve started each book with what I thought was a strong
character, a good locale for the story, and a kind of general idea of what was
going to happen. In each case, I’ve gotten about a hundred or so pages into
the story and then reached the point where I had to stop and figure out what the
book was trying to be, and how everything was going to work. And even then, the
finished product turned out to be something different than I thought it was
going to be.
JON: When I’m reading a good book, the story and
characters stay with me while I’m reading. I’ll be at work and find myself
thinking about Fat Tommy or Tuco. Does this happen while you are writing?
NORM: Oh, sure. Fat Tommy and Tuco
were both very real to me while I was writing about them. It’s almost as
though I spent a certain amount of time in their company, and then I moved on. I
miss them, in a way, I know they are fictional but I still wonder what they’re
doing these days.
JON: What are you working on now?
NORM: Right now I’m finishing up
what I hope will be the final draft of my third book. The current title is ‘The
Birdwatcher.’ It’s about a twenty-eight year old guy from Brooklyn who grew
up on the streets. When he gets out of prison for the second time, he decides to
steal his five-year-old son out of foster care and run away. The two of them go
up to the coast of Maine, where the culture is as different from NYC’s
conspicuous consumerism as you can imagine. It’s a story about running away,
and about facing up.
JON: What’s your favorite line from a movie?
NORM: Heard this one in a Nissan
commercial last night: 'Nothing's over until we say it is.' That was John
Belushi in 'Animal House.'
JON: Is there anything you are afraid of? I mean like white-
knuckle- get- me- away afraid of?
NORM: Bears. I remember visiting my
grandfather's house when I was a little kid, he lived up in Canada, no indoor
plumbing. The outhouse was down behind his house, back just inside the tree
line, and if I had to go, I would stand by the back porch waiting and listening
to the night noises until the biological imperative overpowered my fear, and
then I would run for it. I still get nightmares about bears chasing me back to
that house.
JON: What would be a perfect weekend for you?
NORM: My wife and I are staying at my
buddy's house, up on top of the mountain at Tahoe. There's three feet of fresh
pow, the approach road is closed, but the lifts are running and one is within
walking distance... Oh, man. Excuse me, I gotta go check on season ticket
prices.
Okay, I'm back.
JON: Hollywood want to film The Norman Green story and you
get to cast it. Who would be in it?
NORM: William Hurt in the lead, Demi
Moore plays my wife. They could hold a casting call down by the Sanitation
Garage in the Bronx for all the other parts.
JON: Now that you have two books under your belt and are
touring for them, any surprises that you were not expecting?
NORM: The whole experience has been a
surprise, to tell you the truth. All I knew about it was me, sitting alone in a
room with a pen and a legal pad. All the rest of it was unexpected. Of all the
horror stories I heard, not one happened to me. All of the people I have dealt
with, from my editor at HarperCollins to my agent, to the people in the
bookstores everywhere I've gone, have been terrific.
JON: Any plans to hit any of the conventions?
NORM: I'm just finding out about these
things. I'm probably going to join MWA (Muthas With Attitude? Mass Weapons of
Angola?) and go to their convention.
JON: Knowing what you now know about life, if you could go
back and make some changes in your own life, would you?
NORM: That's really tempting, because
there's plenty of things I could have done better. The problem is, if you change
one thing, you change everything. If I had made better choices as a teen-ager,
for example, who knows where I would be now? I'm pretty happy with the way
things turned out, but I probably needed to go through all of those negative
experiences to get where I am now. So I guess the answer is no.
JON: What's always in your refrigerator?
NORM: Frank's Hot Sauce.
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